Beloved Osho,
you were just talking about food, and now in the west food is a big
cult. It's one of the things coming in as a basis of spirituality. You
said if we're natural, we'll know what to eat and when to eat, but now
we are out of touch with our childlike nature. Also, many religions
say that the food you eat does make a difference to one's spiritual
path. Is there anything you can tell us about food?
It is the other way round: food cannot make you spiritual, but if you
are spiritual your food habits will change.
Eating anything will not make much
difference. You can be a vegetarian and cruel to the extreme, and
violent; you can be a non-vegetarian and kind and loving. Food will
not make much difference.
In India there are communities who have lived totally with vegetarian
food; many Brahmins have lived totally with vegetarian food. They are
non-violent but they are not spiritual.
And Jains are the most materialistic community in India, the most
attracted by possessions, accumulation; that's why they have become
the wealthiest. They are the Jews in India. But a non-vegetarian world
in the West is not in any way different from these vegetarian
communities in India.
Rather, on the contrary, a very
important thing has to be remembered: if you are violent and your food
is vegetarian, then your violence will have to find some other way of
expression. It is natural, because eating non-vegetarian food gives
release to your violence.
So if you know some hunters you
may have come to realize that hunters are the most loving people.
Their whole violence is released in hunting, they are most friendly,
loving. But a businessman vegetarian has no way for his violence to be
released so his whole violence becomes a search for wealth and power;
it becomes narrowed down.
But it happens the other way
round. It happened to Mahavira. Mahavira came from a warrior family,
he was a Kshatriya. Violence must have been easy for him, and then a
deep meditative effort, a twelve-year-long silence changed his inner
essence. When the essence changed the expression changed; when the
innermost being changed, his character changed. But that character
change was not basic, it was a consequence. So I say to you, if you
become more meditative you will become more and more vegetarian
automatically. You need not bother about it.
And only if this happens, that
through meditation vegetarian food comes into you not through mind
manipulation, it is good.But manipulating by the mind, argument,
reasoning that vegetarian food is good, that it will help you to gain
spirituality, is not going to help anything. Your clothes, your food,
your habits of life, your style, everything will change; but this
change is not basic. The basic change is going to be in you and then
everything else follows.
If you meditate long enough, deep
enough, it is impossible for you to hurt anybody for food; it is
impossible. It is not a question of argument, it is not a question of
scriptures, it is not who says what, it is not a question of
calculating that if you take vegetarian food you will become
spiritual; it is automatic. It is not a question of cunningness, you
simply become spiritual. The whole thing seems so absurd. Just for
food, killing animals, birds, seems so absurd, it falls down.
Your clothes change automatically;
by and by you like looser and looser clothes. The more relaxed you are
inside - loose clothes. Automatically I say; there will be no decision
on your part. By and by, if you use tight clothes you will feel
uneasy. Tight clothes belong to a tense mind, loose clothes belong to
a relaxed mind.
But the inner change is the first
thing and everything else is just a consequence. If you reverse the
order you will miss then you will become a food addict.
One man came to me. He was just
lean and thin and pale, and any moment he could die, and he said,
"I want to live only on water because everything else is a
hindrance to spirituality. Now I want to live on pure water."
This man is going to die. There
have been a few people who have lived on pure water but that happened
to them naturally, it cannot be practised. They were freaks,
accidents; their body mechanism and chemistry worked differently. It
has happened - somebody can survive on water but nobody can practise
it.
Someday science may be able to
find the basic chemical change and then everybody will be able to
survive on water; then science will change your body chemistry and you
will survive just on air. It is possible but you cannot practise it.
And the whole effort is meaningless and the whole suffering is
unnecessary, but there are mad people who try things like that. It has
never happened by effort.
There was one woman in Bengal -
she lived forty years without food, but it simply happened. Her
husband died and she couldn't eat for a few days.just out of misery,
out of sorrow, she couldn't eat. But suddenly she realized that
without eating she was feeling better than ever. Then she realized
that in the past whenever she was eating, she was always ill, and
suddenly she became healthy as she never was. Then she lived for forty
years without eating anything, just the air was the food. And this has
happened in many cases.
There was one woman in Europe -
for thirty years she lived without eating. She became a saint because
Christians thought it a miracle. They examined her with every
scientific instrument to see what was happening and they couldn't find
out anything; then it seemed a miracle. It was not a miracle.
Yoga says there is a possibility
of a body change, of a body chemistry change. Right now you are doing
the same just by an intermediary. You cannot eat sunrays directly
because your body chemistry is not in such a state; the mechanism is
not such that it can absorb sunrays directly. So first the fruit of
the tree absorbs the sunrays, it becomes vitamin B in the fruit, then
you eat the fruit, then the vitamin B goes into your body. The fruit
is just an intermediary; the fruit is working just as your agent to
absorb the sunrays and then give them to you. You can absorb them
through the fruit, not directly.
But if the fruit can absorb
directly, why not you? So someday there is going to be a scientific
discovery that some body changes will help you to absorb directly, and
then fruit will not be needed. In the future - and I think not very
long, fifty years - science is bound to discover it.It has to be
discovered, otherwise humanity is going to die because food will not
be possible. And birth control is not helping, nothing is helping; the
population goes on growing. Some way has to be found so food can be
dropped and direct absorption of cosmic rays becomes possible. It has
happened in individual cases but it was by accident. If it can happen
to one individual, it can happen to every individual but not as an
accident; it will happen as a scientific change.
But don't try such things, they
are not spiritual. Even if you eat sunrays directly there is nothing
spiritual. What is spiritual? Just by dropping the intermediary of
fruit you become spiritual? If you live only on water, nothing is
spiritual.
What you eat makes no difference;
what you are is a totally different phenomenon. And when that changes,
everything will change; but that change will not be from the mind, it
will be from the innermost being. Then things will change
automatically.
Sex will disappear by and by. So I
don't say be a brahamachari, be a celibate. That is foolish, because
if you force celibacy you will become more and more sexual in the mind
and your whole mind will become ugly and dirty; you will think only of
sex and nothing else. That is not the way. you will go crazy and
insane. Freud says that ninety percent of madmen are mad because of
repressed sexuality.
I don't say change sex, I don't
say change food; I say change your being and then things will start
changing.
Why is so much sex needed? Because
you are tense, sex becomes a release. Your tensions are released
through it - you feel relaxed, you can go to sleep; if you repress it,
you remain tense. And if you repress sex - the only release, the only
possibility of release - what will happen? You will go mad. Where will
you release your tensions then?
You eat food; it is needed by the
body, and the body rejects only things which are not needed.
Whatsoever you are eating is somehow needed by the body. If you are
taking animal food, if you are taking non-vegetarian food, your mind,
your body, your whole being is violent. And it is needed. don't change
it otherwise your violence will have to find another channel.
Change yourself and food will
change, clothes will change, sex will change. But change should come
from the innermost core, it should not come from the periphery. And
all turmoil is on the periphery; deep down there is no turmoil. You
are just like the sea - go and watch the sea. All the turmoil, all the
waves clashing, is just on the surface; deep, the deeper you go, there
is more and more calm. At the deepest part in the sea there is no
turmoil, not a single wave.
First go deeper into your sea so
you achieve a calm crystallization, so you achieve the point where no
disturbance ever reaches. Stand there. From there every change comes,
every transformation comes. Once you are there you have become a
master; Now whatsoever is unnecessary can be dropped, and can be
dropped without any struggle and fight.
Whenever you drop something by
fight, it is never dropped. You can drop smoking by fighting, and then
you will start doing something else which will become a substitute.
You may start chewing gum, it is the same; You may start chewing pan,
it is the same, there is no difference. You need something to do with
your mouth - smoking, chewing, anything. When your mouth goes on
working, you feel at ease because through the mouth tensions are
released. So whenever a man feels tense he starts smoking. Why is it
that through smoking or chewing gum or tobacco tensions are released?
Just look at a small child.
Whenever he feels tense he will put his hand in his mouth, he will
start chewing his own hand. This is his substitute for smoking. And
why does he feel good when his thumb is in his mouth? Why does the
child feel good and go to sleep? This is the way of almost all
children. Whenever they feel sleep is not coming they will put the
thumb inside the mouth, feel at ease, and fall asleep. Why? The thumb
becomes a substitute for the mother's breast, and food is relaxing.
You cannot go to sleep on a hungry stomach, it is difficult to get
sleep. When the stomach is full you feel sleepy, the body needs rest.
So whenever the child takes the breast in his mouth, food is flowing,
warmth, love. He is relaxed, he need not worry; tensions are relaxed.
The thumb is just a substitute for the breast; it is not giving milk,
it is a false thing, but still it gives the feeling.
When this child grows, if he takes
his thumb in public you will think he is foolish, so he takes a
cigarette. A cigarette is not foolish, it is accepted. It is just the
thumb, and more harmful than the thumb. It is better if you smoke your
thumb, go on smoking to your grave; it is not harmful, it is better.
No harm is done but then people think you are childish, juvenile, then
people think what you are doing is stupid. But there is a need so it
has to be substituted.
And in countries where
breast-feeding has stopped, more smoking will automatically be there.
That's why the West smokes more than the East - because no mother is
ready to give her breast to the child because the shape is lost. So in
the West smoking is increasing more and more; even small children are
smoking.
I have heard that one mother said
to her child, "I don't want neighbors to tell me that you have
started smoking. Be truthful and whenever you start smoking, tell
me." The child said, "Don't bother Mom, I have already
stopped. It is one year now, that I have stopped smoking. It is one
year now so don't you bother, don't you get worried about it."
Small children smoking, and the
mother is not aware that it is because the breast has been taken away.
In all primitive communities a
seven-year-old child, or even an eight or nine-year-old child, will
continue breast-feeding. Then there is a satisfaction and smoking will
not be so necessary. That's why in primitive communities men are not
so much interested in women's breasts; there is no problem that
somebody will attack them. Nobody looks at the breasts.
If you had been given the breast
for ten years continuously, you would get fed up and bored, you would
say, "Stop now!" But every child has been taken away from
the breast prematurely, and that remains a wound. So all civilized
countries are obsessed with breasts. Even an old man, dying, is
obsessed with breasts, goes on searching for breasts.
This seems mad, and it is, but the
basic cause is there - children should be given the breast otherwise
they will become addicted to it, the whole life they will be in search
of it.
You cannot stop smoking directly
because it has many related things, implications. You are tense, and
if you stop smoking you will start something else and the other may be
more harmful. Don't go on escaping problems, face them. The problem is
that you are tense, so the goal should be how to be non-tense, not,
smoking or not smoking.
Meditate. Relax your tensions
without any object into the sky, allow catharsis to happen. When you
are non-tense these things will become absurd, foolish, and they will
drop. Food will change, your styles of living will change.
But my insistence is on you.
Character is secondary, behavior is secondary, the essential you is
the primary thing. Don't pay too much attention to what you do, pay
much attention to what you are; being should become the focus, and
doing should be left to itself. When being changes, doing follows.
From: Osho, A Bird on the Wing